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Caneri


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Thanks Ed of the Crustaceans,

I'll add these to the manuals directory or an html file.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

I was thinking more of a website with links to all the different puppy websites, forums, and manuals.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: puppylinux.org   Reply with quote 

This website is available for tinkering. You can self-register and be a serious editor. Smile It is a Wordpress site. Templates should be easy to change, with the current template a simple one.

The old website is based on PHPfusion which Puppian (Jay Law) used to maintain.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: puppylinux.org   Reply with quote 

raffy wrote:
This website is available for tinkering. You can self-register and be a serious editor. Smile
O...M...G... yet another Puppy website with yet another look, organization, registration etc makes Klu9 cry Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Why yet another site? Can't we all just get along on one well-organized site with one registration process etc?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: puppylinux.org   Reply with quote 

klu9 wrote:
Why yet another site?

Because some people simply "don't get it," klu9. They've bought into "more is better" and completely miss your legitimate concerns and well intentioned suggestion.

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Can't we all just get along on one well-organized site with one registration process etc?

Yes, the community can. Whether it will is another matter which hinges on enough folks "getting it."

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: one   Reply with quote 

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Can't we all just get along on one well-organized site with one registration process etc?

There is always a start, so that's the one. Wordpress is versatile enough and Barry is already using it, so this gives us a common web platform to use.

The look is easy to change. Perhaps browse "wordpress templates" and run a thread to vote on a choice template.

The wiki should be fine, but users now want an easy GUI. And the phpfusion CMS (in pupylinux.org) has no maintainer now - it's "badbehavior" anti-spam is now misbehaving and preventing admin access. Laughing

Klu9 has done a lot of work in the Wiki, so his opinion on this matter is welcome. If you feel there are other alternatives, please don't hesitate to start a new topic. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:31 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

So much for consensus, eh Raffy? Why am I not surprised ...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Yes I'm debating on moving over to word press myself, Because my Fire Hydrant & Fat Free Forum is based on phpbb and man i'm alway getting invaded with porn, I block the porn ip's and delete them like 3 times a week. I find it very distasteful that These damn porn bots seek and destroy family website like that. If i could get my hands on the people who actually think that crap is ok, I would wipe the streets with them! Oh ya we were talking about?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: alternative   Reply with quote 

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So much for consensus, eh Raffy
Any suggested alternative, Alien? You can let forum members try an alternative in your website. I guess we have to use any alternative to feel whether it can work for us. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

I personally feel that when it comes to packages it would be nice if each package would have a folder, you open the folder and then a text file with a link to the original website where it came from and a brief description and maybe an image. When it comes to files i know about 75% of them but the other 25% i have to search around just to find out what they are? Like Gslapt is good because it has descriptions. Very Helpful. When i was a new user the whole process was overwhelming, But as time went on and Read up and listened and learned but there should be an easier way. Or maybe divided into sections like multimedia and when you go to the multimedia section its like a wiki which has the description, links etc all on one page with a download link for the program. That way your files can be all over the world but the information and download link is centrally located and also you could have backup mirror links also.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:39 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

One last thing i think it would be great if we had a page on libraries like sometimes you need just 1 library file and when you download a pet package that contains it you get like 10 of them and 5mb extra. Well thats over kill and makes it really hard to find the ones you need sometimes, Just last week i needed one and only found it form the puppy 1.0 series, well it worked but boy i had to blow the dust off that webpage to find it. It took a few hours to find it and i had to look at over 100 pages before i found it, Really if we were more organized then that it would of taken seconds or minutes.

Simplicity is aways the way. Like pac-man or frogger, a couple of kb games =1000's of hours of fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

Caneri wrote:

EDIT..but it's sure a lot of fun trying to keep up.. Smile

Any ideas are most welcome.


Nice job on puppy.ca Eric,

I just visited the site.. and I like the clean access to so many of the Puppy resources.

This is what is needed as a Home type page to source out the info. I am sure so many other pages started in the same fashion but the enthusiasum of puppy users made those pages old.. quick.

James
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geneven

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Site Vertigo   Reply with quote 

Yes, many times I have gone crazy, for example, trying to find Barry's developer blog, popping from one site to another, reading about how the site was closed or was going to be closed, then being referred to another site, which was also not yet the right one.

My solution: I have one link in my personal toolbar for Puppy: www.puppylinux.ca. I'm not from Canada, but I find its interface simple and clear-cut.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote 

That links broke. I like puppylinux.org but there are many potential improvements that immediately spring to mind.
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Caneri


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject:
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hey the link will work without the "." at the end...lol

www.puppylinux.ca

and thanks for the kind words....I have removed the link to "Manuals" from the front until a consensus can be reached or at least get closer. It's now on the software page.

I welcome ideas...please post them....keeping up to puppy is a formidable task as you are well aware..my idea was to bring many developers together on my server to keep me up to date...I feel the "owner" will be much more able to do updates than myself and so far I think it's working...

Now I need to keep up to the developers...oh my...Wink

EDIT...I wish I could put dates on each file..but so far I'm told my server doesn't support "dates"...the older version of Apache is what I've been told is the problem...any solution to this would be interesting to me.

Thanks

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